Thursday, July 28, 2005
This Day:

Since childhood, it has been drilled into our heads that there are nine planets in the Solar System. However, there is nothing magical about the number 9, and it has always been assumed that there might be more planets lurking out there. Now, 75 years after Clyde Tombaugh discovered the ninth planet Pluto, a tenth one has been found:):). Observed through the Samuel Oschin Telescope at Palomar Observatory near San Diego, California, even though it is a typical member of the Kuiper Belt, it is possibly larger than Sedna (largest object beyond Neptune other than Pluto), has a moon, and thus is a planet in its own right.

Tenth Planet (Courtesy: CalTech)
Tentatively named as 2003 EL61, the planet is about 97 times farther from the Sun than the Earth. It was first observed on October 31, 2003 and again observed in January of this year. In the last seven months, scientists have gathered enough data to make sure the size and orbit of the object, which conclusively pins it down as the tenth planet of the Solar System.
The size of the planet is limited by observations using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope, which has already proved its mettle in studying the heat of dim, faint, faraway objects such as the Kuiper-belt bodies. Because Spitzer is unable to detect the new planet, the overall diameter of the planet has to be less than 2,000 miles. A name for the new planet has been proposed by the discoverers (Mike Brown, Chad Trujillo, and David Rabinowitz) to the International Astronomical Union, and they are awaiting the decision of this body before announcing the name:):).

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17 Comments:

At July 30, 2005 5:04 AM, Blogger abnegator said...
Oh...really? amazing..now all the textbooks would need to change their content related to this...thanks for the info if its authentic.
 
At July 30, 2005 7:28 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Yaa :). We shall see!
 
At July 30, 2005 8:55 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
Wohhh:)It is greattttt,Have it be there from the beginnin' or they go to be added later more planets too?!
 
At July 30, 2005 1:40 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Lemna: The planet has recently been discovered, and more analyses are needed to find out its exact mass and size, I think :). I am sure there are more such planets/planetoids out there :).
 
At July 30, 2005 1:41 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Gindy: There is a debate that is still on. Finally the question boils down to this: what is a planet? Perhaps at the first approximation, we can say it must be in a stable orbit, have a spherical/large-enough body, and this object as far as I know fits that model.
 
At July 31, 2005 6:08 AM, Blogger Tupinambah said...
I'm delighted but I have to say I didn't like the name : Xena.
 
At July 31, 2005 9:23 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Hmmm I dont like it either. But it seems the astronomers wanted to name it on the warrior princess.

Was there a actual mythological Xena? All the other planets are named after Roman gods, it is a shame to see that pattern not being followed.
 
At August 01, 2005 12:04 PM, Blogger Sray said...
We all enjoy a good, lively debate, dont we? :):)
 
At August 01, 2005 4:54 PM, Blogger Sray said...
And oh by the way, think the amount of trouble this would cause to the astrolgers :D:D.. I wish I could see that Russian astrologer's face now, who threatened to sue NASA for crashing on the comet.... :))...
 
At August 02, 2005 6:30 AM, Blogger abnegator said...
actually , if you try to find out such bodies in the space..i am sure we are gonna end up with many more planets and that is quite not so settling. I would rather vote that people name them differently, not planets but something else. Keep the count of planets to 9 only and then let these newly-founded ones as sub-planets or Xenotics or anything else...What do u say, SRay?
 
At August 02, 2005 7:22 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Yes... there is such a term. They are called planetoids, and there is a considerable debate on whether Pluto is a planet or a planetoid. But the question remains: what is the dividing line between a planet and a planetoid?
 
At August 02, 2005 8:23 AM, Blogger abnegator said...
Oh..cool then..planetoids..what is the dividing line between a planet and a planetoid? TIME...as it is in case of Classical Physics and Modern Physics...TIME..isnt that a sufficient dividing line.. I would not disagree.
 
At August 02, 2005 9:01 AM, Blogger Sray said...
What do you mean by TIME? Time the planet/planetoid has been in existence?! Or time since it has been discovered? One has to determine a purely objective (observer-free) criterion for determining whether a object is a planet or planetoid. It can be its size, mass, shape, shape of orbit, distance, or a combination of above.
 
At August 02, 2005 9:26 AM, Blogger abnegator said...
Nothing could be observer-free..Einstein theory of relativity could be generalized in life and other sectors of our findings..dont u agree?by the way..by time I meant discovery time..now since we are sure that there are no such things called planets being sun and pluto except for the already known one so I guess lets close the planets sections..and come up with new terminologies about the new findings..Dont you agree that these things are just there to keep our knowledge organized? and build up reasonable hypothesis based on our current findings? I mean what difference is a planetoid or a planet gonna make to our existing theories and forumulations? Arent they just nomenclatures?
 
At August 02, 2005 9:39 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Of course, if you want to go down the path of QM and so on, nothing can be observer-free. But when we are talking about planets and planetoids, we are still (mostly) in the realm of classical physics :).

True that the words are just classifications, and I personally am fine with grey areas between two groups of objects. That is only natural :). The goal is not only to classify, but also better understand the processes that create planets, and those that create planetoids, and that is what is driving all this questions.

Personally, I am of the opinion that if a object has been created in the primordial dust cloud around the Sun and is the only object in that particular orbit, it is a planet. If not, it is most likely to be a planetoid (formed out of a dust cloud where a single planet could not form).
 
At August 02, 2005 9:46 AM, Blogger abnegator said...
Ok..now I am tired :)...I wont argue with u any longer..ok..i must also admit ..you have convinced me to some extent but I had further questions..and explanations which I would not raise coz I am just tired...Had a very boring day in office...would be leaving for home now..Have a nice time..Nice blogs I admit..Nice posts..keep us informed... Cheers..
 
At August 02, 2005 9:47 AM, Blogger Sray said...
:)).. and I have just come to my work, so am fully of energy :D:D.. so it is an unfair advantage for me :):). See u later, and keep peppering with comments :).
 

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