Saturday, April 23, 2005
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Bonobos (Pan paniscus) are our closest relatives. They are a kind of apes, and are found only in the Congo River basin, and hence are highly endangered :(. We share 98.4% of our DNA, and a lot of what many of us think as exclusively human traits (emotions, tool-making, intelligence, language, consciousness, social bonds, morality, love) are found in bonobo societies as well. Pioneering research by Dr. Sue Savage-Rumbaugh and Takayoshi Kano have helped open a window into the behavior of these apes, and helped show (along with Chimp researchers such as Jane Goodall) that we humans are not so unique after all.

Kanzi, the Bonobo (Courtesy: Wikipedia)
Now scientists are planning a really ambitious attempt that might shine new light on bonobos, and how much we humans share with them. A group of eight bonobos will take part in a unique language research, at the Great Ape Trust near Des Moines, Iowa.
Panbanisha, 19, and her son, Nyota, 7, will arrive first. Later, the matriarch of the group, Matata, will move in with Kanzi, Nathan, Elikya, Maisha and P-Suke (peace-kay). These particular bonobos can speak with symbols, play music, work video games with a joystick, draw and role-play. They like it when the scientists wear animal masks and when they play "tickle," Savage-Rumbaugh said.
The scientists will test the bonobos' musical abilities, counting abilities, moral decisions, love, communication skills, and so on. The bonobos will control access to part of their building, flush their own toilets, help cook meals in their own kitchen, select their own videos to watch and lounge in their own spa-sized tub complete with waterfall :D:D.

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At April 25, 2005 8:50 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Phew 98.4% !!
Interesting post, and was suprised on the morality part.

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re.the discussion in previous post, no i am not offended and thanks for deleting the comment.

I agree with you.

I perceived the question,on how it makes me feel? i.e do I feel repressed.
And the answer to that was no. At the same time I acknowledge that others could feel repressed and of course I would support them and I definitely do Not approve of the practise of tellin people what they can and cant wear.
I have disappointed many on this, including perhaps my family, but I rather be honest and sound a hypocrite than be hypocritic with myself:)

I accept that I need not be right, all the time and I am not all that I would aspire to be:) And in the context of your question, I think i have responsibilities to my family too, and at the moment, I dont indulge in any activity which conflicts with it:)

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And hey I think I finally managed to use the code. Agree its no big deal, but it did take time to understand for me, especially the part of blogger referencing and tryin to match the template code with the output code:)
 
At April 25, 2005 9:38 AM, Blogger Sray said...
First, congrats for understanding my code :D:D:D.

Whether you feel repressed or not, is a totally private and personal issue. There are many women who do not feel repressed when their husbands beat them. But that does not mean that it has to be right, in the larger social context. But then, you have to try to convince these women that they perhaps are wrong, and at the same time, also respect their beliefs. It is a very fine line to walk, I think :-).

I admire you for acknowledging that you might not always be right, and still striving to be honest with yourself. But, I suspect there must be some line that you will not allow the government/society to cross, when it comes to your personal liberties! And sure, you do have responsibilities to your family, but then the family perhaps should give you the oppurtunities and freedom to express yourself the way you want to. Again, it is a delicate balance. To each to decide where the balancing line should be :-).

I personally believe, that men and women should have the same rights, and responsibilities (except in cases where biology intrudes, of course). In the personal sphere, some wives (or husbands) might choose to do things differently, but that is because they love their partner, and are ready to do some sacrifice. But the State should not dictate where that line is!

I was glad to delete that comment. I should have been more careful... thanks for putting me straight :)).
 
At April 25, 2005 10:20 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:))
actually what u say is very true, just because an individual doesnt feel repressed doesnt make it right for everyone.

where do i draw the line? well when it comes to discussions,or advise,etc i base my opinions, not on what i feel, but on what i think, which goes along with what u said.

but in order to feel good about myself when it comes to personal choices, i go by what i feel comfortable with:)
and accept responsibility for it.
(and dont believe in blamin family etc, they influence my decision, but the decision and choices are always mine)

and of course the degree of my "activism" depends on the country, mainly because i think, being an Indian, i will be more effective, in India then in any other country.
 
At April 25, 2005 10:22 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
well the country doesnt matter in blogspot, but things did get very unpleasant and personal in o3 and i didnt want o3 bloggers comin across it:D

and the code was neat, its just that i was too lazy to understand javascript and tried copy pasting without thinking:D
 
At April 25, 2005 11:17 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Hmm.. but I dont see the statistics on your page! Where did you put it?

Abt. o3, there are jerks everywhere. So I guess you have to steer clear of them, and not give them any more encouragement than they deserve :-).
 
At April 25, 2005 12:11 PM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Well i guess i didnt do it right. i tested in eggshots well now the prob is it displays the comments on the main page itself,for each post and it counts the comments for each post i think. guess it has to do with the placement:) wil work on it tommorrow.
Thanks:)
 
At April 25, 2005 1:02 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Yaa.. it was Koko. But it was a gorilla, not a guerilla :)).

The apes are emotional creatures, and can love and feel for their human ad animal friends. Koko, for example, had a kitten as a pet!, and expressed her love for the kitten using sign language :).
 
At April 26, 2005 7:03 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
Heyyy I like them!!!Can you send one for me?the American one!!!:D
 
At April 26, 2005 7:07 AM, Blogger Sray said...
American type? There are no bonobos in America!! Hmmm....... ;-);-);-)...
 
At April 26, 2005 1:48 PM, Blogger Wayne Smallman said...
I've watched a program on television about the Bonobos chimps and while they share a lot of our more noble characteristics, they're also highly promiscuous and very docile.

By way of contrast, about a stones throw from where these guys live is another breed of chimp that is quite the opposite in that they are very hierarchical and extremely aggressive...
 
At April 26, 2005 2:21 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Bonobos and chimps split about 2 million years ago. Bonbos live in humid forests south of Zaire river, and chimps live on the northern banks. A population of apes were somehow split in two by the river, and never mated again (as chimps and bonobos are afraid of water and do not know swimming). The two groups then evolved very differently :-).
 
At April 26, 2005 7:07 PM, Blogger Wayne Smallman said...
It's strange that chimps should have such an aversion to water when gorillas [or at least some of them] are water-dwellers...
 
At April 26, 2005 7:26 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Similar examples exist elsewhere too! For example, cats dont like water that much, but Indian Tigers are a big exception.
 
At April 27, 2005 12:11 AM, Blogger Sray said...
What you say is quite true. But, dont forget that males have X and Y chromosomes, while females have two X chromosomes. Which means that even though the Y chromosome is shrunk, males do have access to all the genes that females have on X! In that sense, the functional difference between male and female should not be the difference of a X chromosome, but that of a Y chromosome.
 
At April 27, 2005 3:28 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
I want the American type of Bonobos:((:D
 
At April 27, 2005 3:54 AM, Blogger Sray said...
How do American bonobos look like? I dont know... perhaps you can tell me?? :D:D:D.
 
At April 27, 2005 6:08 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
They do look like my Rain:D:DThat's why they are lovely:D:DI have to find a husband/wife for my Rain:D
 
At April 27, 2005 8:15 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Ask you Rain to come here, and I will find him/her a suitable wife/husband :D:D:D.
 

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Friday, April 22, 2005
This Day:

A NASA funded study has found a decline in winter and spring snow cover over Southwest Asia and the Himalayan mountain range is creating conditions for more widespread blooms of ocean plants in the Arabian Sea.
The decrease in snow cover has led to greater differences in both temperature and pressure systems between the Indian subcontinent and the Arabian Sea. The pressure differences generate monsoon winds that mix the ocean water in the Western Arabian Sea. This mixing leads to better growing conditions for tiny, free-floating ocean plants called phytoplankton.

Chlorophyll concentration (Courtesy: NASA)
When winter and spring snow cover is low over Eurasia, the amount of solar energy reflected back into the atmosphere is less. A decline in the amount of snow cover means less of the sun's energy goes towards melting of snow and evaporation of wet soil. As a result the land mass heats up more in summer creating a larger temperature difference between the water of the Arabian Sea and the Indian subcontinent landmass.
The temperature difference is responsible for a disparity in pressure over land and sea, creating a low pressure system over the Indian subcontinent and a high pressure system over the Arabian Sea. This difference in pressure causes winds to blow from the Southwest Arabian Sea bringing annual rainfall to the subcontinent from June to September. In the Western Arabian Sea, these winds also cause upwelling of cooler nutrient-rich water, creating ideal conditions for phytoplankton to bloom every year during summer.
While large blooms of phytoplankton can enhance fisheries, exceptionally large blooms could be detrimental to the ecosystem. Increases in phytoplankton amounts can lead to oxygen depletion in the water column and eventually to a decline in fish populations.
All this can start a downward spiral in the health of the marine ecosystem; as fish die, larger fish and mammals die, and this decreases the oxygen content further, since the decomposing bacteria start flourishing. It might take a while for the ocean systems to recover from such a downward trend, and in the meantime, economies around the world might take a beating.
Happy Earth Day, everyone ;)

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At April 24, 2005 7:07 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Wow, fascinating :)

An apt post re.Earth Day,
Happy Earth to you too:)
 
At April 24, 2005 7:39 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Thanks WD :). BTW, were you able to do anything with the code? I dont have any comments in it whatsoever :(:(... so it might be kinda hard!

Another thing.. is this triplex for real? I read his three posts.... either he is joking, or he seriously needs a trip to a psychiatrist :)).
 
At April 24, 2005 8:27 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:)) sray,
well you should visit http://o3.indiatimes.com thats the indiatimes blogsite, and actually over there, thats the norm and thats natural and i am the big weirdo over there:)) and till i saw some blogs in blogspot i was thinkin perhaps i need a psychiatrist or i am out of touch with reality:d

triplex calls himself my blog brothers (sadly one can choose re friends but not re.siblings:D)

well no luck with the code , but thats probably because i didnt try hard enough:d
will be goin on vacation next month so busy with that (ha another excuse).

what i understood from ur file is that u have probably written that in the section javascript :comments. let me atleast think of trying for next 2 days. it might be small, but i want to atleast give it a decent shot.

on cracking, any idea on this one

U'll know somethin abt me if u crack this un. Its pretty easy for a person

whos into it!
O Draconian devil!
The Roman king seeks Posiedon
And says what has to be done
" U r 3deg 2v 2klox hq 2y! "

http://roastedneutrons.blogspot.com

Posiedon God of Horses and this guy Capri any connection??? or is reference to seas/earthquakes/husband etc.
but idea on the rest, though hopin 2 crack. 2klox .. now what could that be??
 
At April 24, 2005 8:44 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Wow... vacation, eh? Have a greaat time!!

Is there something wrong with the average indian male (I am guessing it is mostly males there) that populates the indiatimes site (i.e. infantile/vulgar/macho/chauvinist all rolled into one :D)? I hoped the indian male had evolved since I left india....

Well, come back from vacation, and then I will help your with the code. And yes, it is written in the comments part. Perhaps you can take a printout to a vacation... hahahaha... :D:D:D.

Abt. the puzzle. I thought I saw the "O Draconian Devil!" somewhere, and then realized it was a anagram, and stands for "Leonardo Da Vinci". The rest, I am working on it!
 
At April 24, 2005 10:04 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:)) well vacation is 17th may, but by the rate i am goin, i will probably end up taking a printout:D

well i dont know about avg Indian male, but I think, each site has its own type of bloggers and o3, attracts a particular kind.

and that it gives more annonymity and unfortunately no login facility and anyone can impersonate anyone:D and of course attention (even edited posts appear on the main page list) and you get the feeling that the whole blogsite knows what ur saying, while when one comments in blogspot or rediff , u dont get the feelin that all the bloggers in that site, will read ur comment.

actually o3 does hav a good number of female bloggers.

but what happens in o3, is that "friendships" is more imp than disagreein and expressin opinion. well each one their priority i guess..
and many times the reaction to comments based on who says what to it first..

:( o3 changed after december and became like this.

aaargh i must stop on o3 bloggers and o3 admin, if i start writing on that, even a dedicated blog is not enough:D

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yeah draconian devil from dan brown:( but cant get the others. have a feelin it will be easier if i figure out the roman king part
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on the js code does it in function writeComments?
 
At April 24, 2005 10:22 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
instead of keepin it in a seperate file, if i write the js code in the head will there be any other change to the code ?
 
At April 24, 2005 10:35 AM, Blogger Sray said...
:))
I have a feeling that many indian males still consider that there are certain jobs only they can be good at. That really ticks me off. Even in USA, I often see indian guys walking coolly (often half-a-meter ahead), whereas the poor wife has a kid in one hand, and her purse/bag in the other.

About the code. It is in writeComments :-). Try the following:

1) Copy the whole section (bounded by "Javascript:Comments" on both sides) into a new file, named "something.js". That portion is self-contained.
2) Upload the something.js file to a server (I have kept mine on geocities, for example).
3) Check the html-source-code of my post. Find all the function calls there (savePostInfo, updateComment, writeComments) and add those lines in a similar way to your template.
4) Find a line in my html-source-code containing the word "MyJavaCode.js", and copy the line to your template in a similar position (Replace MyJavaCode.js with something.js). Also change the path to your server address.
5) Find a section in my html-code which contains the side-bar code (Search for "writeComments(false, 16);", enclosed in a Begin-Box/End-Box section; copy the whole thing). Copy it to your sidebar.
6) Save template and republish!

Oh yeah, you can just copy that section to your template... no need to keep in a separate js file.

In case you need my template to get an idea, let me know, and I will mail it to you.

The puzzle is pretty interesting, thanks :-).
 
At April 24, 2005 12:07 PM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:)) well what u say is true. but i also believe that in many cases, people dont take responsibilites,

its not just Indian males mindset, all the time.after all there are many who would be ashamed to say my husband is a homemaker :)

earlier posts and comments which were in my opinion not politically correct, used to make me go ballistic, but now i guess i have become immune to a degree and more pragmatic, and hope to change the post contents (the triplex post on drivin) to a degree atleast.

(in the past he had changed and even the AIDS post had the greenland part chopped after my protest:D)

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re the code, i will try that. i think the mistake i made was i didnt realise that i have to make changes to the template
(savePostInfo, updateComment, writeComments)

i just copied the .js in the head then i copied that box containing the false 16 in my sidebar.

thanks i will see if this works, if it doesnt will ask for template.
(if i have template now, i will be just lazy and not bother to atleast have a clue what does what:D)

thanks a lot, really apprecite it.
 
At April 24, 2005 1:15 PM, Blogger Sray said...
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At April 24, 2005 1:17 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Gindy, it is shocking. I really dont care if you call it global warming or not. But the fact remains that something big is going on, and we need to do something, now. At least we need to see if we can do anything at all, and if not, what is the solution? I hope we dont see huge droughts/famines after 25 years, and then we wont be able to do anything.

I find it ironic that Bush is trying to repair Social-Security because "it is better to start repairing from now or it will be too late", but is not taking the same approach towards environment. Again, global warming or not, something is going on.
 
At April 25, 2005 1:48 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
sray, the only thing the bloggers are not supposed to know is where i live:)
since frm my homepage its easy to figure out my name and see the pic:) and therefore would like a degree of annonymity:)

when i started bloggin i didnt know about nedstats and statcounters:)

so would be obliged if u could remove the reference to where i could be.



i am not replyin in detail not because i find the question personal or because i dislike it but i hope u get the gist when i say my personal convictions dont come in the way of my respecting the environment.

i read in dan brown book that vatican city has a dress code and women should cover their legs etc.
if i ever visit vatican city, would i abide by the dress code, well i probably would. even though i would not prefer it nor accept it. but i would still abide by it, because i would respect the sensibilities of those around me. after all there are dress codes even for some functions in tirupathi and i think in guruvayur temple and perhaps in some other temples.

I like the Gandhian thought, though i cant claim to be a Gandhian. There are many ways to counter something you dont believe in and not just one.:)
 
At April 25, 2005 2:01 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
i had recently argued heavily in a blog on women's right to dress the way she wants and had written a post sometime back against judgin a woman by her dress and using the dress of the woman as an excuse for molestation.

According to me,
every person has the right to dress the way a person wants to.

And I dress the way I want to. Unfortunately or fortunately, when I make the choice, I include in it, the part on not offending the sensibilities of those around me.

So while i will support and say a bride has the right to wear jeans as her wedding costume, i wouldnt wear one, if it would hurt my family:)

now thats contradiction, hypocrisy, cowardice or pseudo conviction , hmmm i dont know:)
 
At April 25, 2005 5:17 AM, Blogger Unknown said...
YO COOOOOL POST'S sray.....
SO r u sure, i can visit india around may to june ?
is it safe ? :)
 
At April 25, 2005 6:45 AM, Blogger Sray said...
WD: Sorry about that... hope you are not offended :-(.

Well, about your comments, I agree and I disagree. There are certain things that are linked to human-rights, and it would be wrong for us to say that it is fine since that is the culture of the country. For example, what if the country allows marriages of girls at 9 years age? Should we ignore it because that is how the country's (male) leaders have decided it to be?

Your Vatican reference is not a valid one. One could choose not to go to the Vatican, and also one does not have to spend their life there. So one does have a choice. But for certain countries in the world, the women-folk do not have a choice, since they were born there, and have to live there!

Again, I apologize for my mistake. Hope you keep visiting.
 
At April 25, 2005 6:46 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Hi spyder... sure it is :-). These changes are moving pretty slowly now, but once they start building up pace, the climate changes might be unpredictable :-(.

Thanks for visiting, and thanks for the compliments :-).
 
At April 25, 2005 9:15 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
"There are certain things that are linked to human-rights, and it would be wrong for us to say that it is fine since that is the culture of the country. For example, what if the country allows marriages of girls at 9 years age? Should we ignore it because that is how the country's (male) leaders have decided it to be?

But for certain countries in the world, the women-folk do not have a choice, since they were born there, and have to live there! "


I absolutely agree with you. There is no question in my mind that it is not fair and should change. But at the same time, when it comes to another country and for major political changes to rectify the cultural change, I think it shoudl come from within first. And sometimes instead of change thru revolution, sometimes its due to evolution and though unfair, it takes time.

And I choose to not actively participate, knowing i am wrong in doing it.
 
At April 25, 2005 9:52 AM, Blogger Sray said...
I agree. I am not trying to say that you should try change the policies. But the women citizens of the country should try to! After all, it is their country too. And I suspect many men will support them as well.
 
At April 25, 2005 10:07 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
sray:)
actually its happening though slow and the media does play a role in it.

but sometimes cultural changes are symbolic and are interlinked with politics and religion and therefore the changes slow.

trends in neighbouring countries, also play a role
 
At April 25, 2005 1:06 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Dunno abt. dandruff :)).. but both methane and car exhaust are greenhouse gases. So it is plausible that they are contributing something to the warming... but we dont know how much, and therein lies the problem.
 
At April 26, 2005 7:11 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
I think I have heard about greenhouse gasses,they make the earth beacame warm day by day,there was an agreement which will be effective to join,I mean Kyoto agreement...
 
At April 26, 2005 7:14 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Big countries, like USA, didnt join the agreement. Developing countries, like China and India are not signing. Iran is yet to sign, I think.

So, the largest polluters are not signing (USA, China)... so the protocol is a lame duck :-(.
 
At April 26, 2005 11:42 PM, Blogger Unknown said...
Just to inform u: The code has changed!

Are you the person named Brad in my comments?

Ur blog is somethin like a chat room with WD. U guys start off with global warmin and stuff and go on to womens' rights! Any way! Nice blog.

I got here by doing a google search on the puzzle. Coz i knew that some ppl had outsourced the work!

If u had gone in the right direction in the old puzzle, all of it will still be useful. But the final answer u wud get now will not be something very juicy! All u will get is the satisfaction of solving the puzzle! (It wasnt so in the old one)
 
At April 27, 2005 12:31 AM, Blogger Sray said...
WD is a good friend, and a nice person to chat with :-)... so we talked.

No, I am not Brad, never been. WD asked me about the puzzle, and I said I will think about it. But I dont have much time, so havent thought much abt. it since.

Nice one, though!
 

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Thursday, April 21, 2005
This Day:

Scientists at the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) have designed microscopic refrigerators, that are capable of reaching temperatures as low as 0.1 Kelvin (-273.06°C). These chip-sized refrigerators have been used to cool a cube of Germanium. The solid-state refrigerators have applications such as cooling cryogenic sensors in highly sensitive instruments for semiconductor defect analysis and astronomical research. The work is presented in the April 25, 2005, issue of Applied Physics Letters.

Cool Germanium! (Courtesy: NIST)
The refrigerators are 25 microns x 15 microns (1 micron = 0.0001 cm) in size, and are sandwiches of a normal metal, an insulator and a superconducting metal. When a voltage is applied across the sandwich, the hottest electrons "tunnel" from the normal metal through the insulator to the superconductor. The temperature in the normal metal drops dramatically and drains electronic and vibrational energy from the objects being cooled. Tunneling is a quantum mechanical phenomenon, which allows the electrons to jump the insulator barrier, and directly go to the superconductor.
Four pairs of such sandwiches were used to cool a cube of Germanium (250 microns on a side), which was in placed on a Silicon Nitrate membrane (450 microns size). Both the membrane and the cube were cooled down to about 0.1 Kelvin. The cube is about 1,000 times larger than the combined volume of the refrigerators. This is equivalent to having a refrigerator the size of a person cool an object the size of the Statue of Liberty :D.
The refrigerators are made using common lithography techniques (used to 'print' circuits on a semiconductor chip), which makes a large-scale production very much possible in the near future. Such refrigerators might also have applications in draining heat from high-speed chips, and cauterizing small nerves/blood vessels during operations :).

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At April 23, 2005 2:23 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Now thats cool !

on http://scithought.blogspot.com/2005_03_20_scithought_archive.html
didnt understand why there would be a variations in the xray brightness every 2 hours,and though i understand its significant, what does it signify?
 
At April 23, 2005 4:09 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Black holes work like giant vacuum cleaners. They attract mass towards them, and then absorb them! Normally, a disk of mass forms around a black hole (like a whirlpool), and this mass, while being absorbed, emits X-Rays (the falling mass has disintegrated into positively and negatively charged particles, and such particles emit light when accelerated, where the frequency of light depends on the amount of acceleration. In this case, since the acceleration is high, the frequency is high, in the X-Ray range). Once the black-hole has absorbed all the mass, the emissions stop. After a while, when it has attracted mass again, the whole process starts over.

The length/fluctuation of this quiet phase (as well the frequency of the X-Rays) tell us the mass and speed of rotation of the black hole, and the density of the matter around and falling into it. That is why it is significant, because it tells us a lot about the neighborhood of the black-hole!
 
At April 23, 2005 5:03 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
thanks:)
 
At April 23, 2005 11:31 AM, Blogger broomhilda said...
totally cool!
 

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Wednesday, April 20, 2005
This Day:

Detailed new images of the starbirth nursery in the Omega Nebula (M17) have revealed a multi component structure in the envelope of dust and gas surrounding a very young star. The stellar newborn, called M17-SO1, has a flaring torus of gas and dust, and thin conical shells of material above and below the torus. Shigeyuki Sako from University of Tokyo and a team of astronomers from the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, Japan Aeorospace Exploration Agency, Ibaraki University, Purple Mountain Observatory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and Chiba University obtained these images and analyzed them in infrared wavelengths in order to understand the mechanics of protoplanetary disk formation around young stars.

Stellar Envelope (Courtesy: NAOJ)
Their work is described in a detailed article in the April 21, 2005 edition of Nature. The near-infrared observations reveal the structure of the surrounding envelope with unprecedented levels of detail. The observations show that the envelope has multiple components instead of one simple structure. The discovery of the multi-component structure puts new constraints on how an envelope feeds material to a protostellar disk forming within its boundaries.
The Sun and the solar system formed from a dense cloud of gas and dust similar to M17-SO1 some 4.6 billion years ago. All the material that makes up the Earth and the creatures that live upon it originated in that primordial cloud. Once the Sun formed, its gravity pulled gas and dust inward. When the Sun's gravitational pull and the centrifugal force of the infalling material balanced, the remaining material settled into orbit around the Sun. The resulting disk of gas and dust was a protoplanetary disk. Repeated collisions of gas and dust within this disk led to the formation of the planets. To understand what the early solar system was like, and to understand how planetary systems form in general, astronomers are actively studying stars that could be similar to the Sun as it was 4.6 billion years ago.
The observations regarding this planetary envelope can be substantial in extending our understanding of the proto-disk that once surrounded our Sun.

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At April 22, 2005 4:28 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Ever been to this star, Lucretia?
 
At April 22, 2005 5:51 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Mind bogglin and interesting:)

The Sun and the solar system formed from a dense cloud of gas and dust similar to M17-SO1 some 4.6 billion years ago. All the material that makes up the Earth and the creatures that live upon it originated in that primordial cloud -

where did this cloud originate from, a part of another star?

any link on how stars are born?

and omega nebula is another galaxy?

and perhaps unrelated, are stars , galaxies, in different planes are same planes? and if in different planes, would we see a different sky from a telescope in south pole compared with a telescope in north pole (do i make sense:(? )
 
At April 22, 2005 6:05 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
sorry didnt read ur early post, in that u have explained on big bang.

btw strugglin with that code. i wanted only the part on displayin the 5 main ids, who comments (other than annons) and the post number count.
i think i found the segment on comments, but couldnt incorporate. i dont want to be lazy and ask for readymade, so i will work on it for a week and then ask u if i cant:) thanks for that file:)
 
At April 22, 2005 8:24 AM, Blogger broomhilda said...
I agree with Lucretia!
 
At April 22, 2005 8:49 AM, Blogger Sray said...
LOL, you two! I can imagine Lucretia on her carrot, and Broomhilda on her solar sail :-D, coasting through the nebula. Who is faster?
 
At April 22, 2005 8:57 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Wise Donkey: the cloud originated from a supernova explosion of some other star. That is why we have such large concentrations of heavy metals (heavier than iron, such as gold, platinum, uranium etc.) in our solar system. These elements are only created in a supernova blast.

For how stars are born, check here.

Omega Nebula (or Swan Nebula, M17) is 5000 light-years away, and is a active star-forming region in our Milky Way galaxy.

The milky way galaxy is a flat, spiral galaxy. So most of its stars are in a plane. But the rest of the galaxies (and there are 100 billion of them!) lie everywhere in th sky. And we do see different views from different places on Earth, for example, the North Star is only visible from the Northern Hemisphere.
 
At April 22, 2005 8:58 AM, Blogger Sray said...
WD: About the code... try for a week, and let me know. I will get the comments part out and explain it to you :-).
 
At April 22, 2005 11:19 AM, Blogger broomhilda said...
Sray,

Sailing is not a race, it's about relaxation. Just gliding along, seeing the sights, being one with the universe.
 
At April 22, 2005 1:20 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Yaa.. but beware of the carrot! She might punch right through your sail with her scramjet :-D.
 
At April 22, 2005 3:38 PM, Blogger broomhilda said...
I have duct tape for repair. Besides,Lucretia would not do something like that, she is not evil.
 
At April 22, 2005 4:11 PM, Blogger Sray said...
The carrot is crazy, but not evil :-).
 
At April 22, 2005 4:12 PM, Blogger Sray said...
I mean that in a very nice way, of course :-).
 
At April 22, 2005 5:24 PM, Blogger broomhilda said...
Crazy in a good way, not reckless.
 

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Tuesday, April 19, 2005
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All matter around us is composed of atoms. Each atom is made up of yet smaller parts, protons, neutrons, and electrons. More fundamentally, protons and neutrons are made up of quarks (3 quarks each). The force that binds the protons and neutrons inside the nucleus of an atom is called the strong nuclear force, and has a particle equivalent called the gluon. Scientists believe that at the time of the creation of our Universe (that is, the Big Bang), the energies were so high that protons and neutrons were melted into constituent quarks and gluons, thus forming a Quark-Gluon Plasma (QGP). Now for the first time, such primordial matter might have been created in a lab :).

Quark Gluon Plasma (Courtesy: PPARC)
An international team of physicists working at the RHIC (Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider) at the Brookhaven National Laboratory says it has found strong evidence for the QGP. Interestingly, instead of behaving like free particles, the quarks, antiquarks, and gluons behaved more like a liquid! The results were presented at the April meeting of the American Physical Society.
RHIC uses accelerators to increase the energies of gold atoms up to 100 billion electron volts inside a 4-kilometre ring and then collides them together. When a gold nucleus collides with another gold nucleus the constituent protons and neutrons are thought to melt together to form a QGP. The new material formed deviates from our current understanding of how a QGP should behave. This is exciting news, as it means that there are some things that are still not clear, and therefore more study is necessary to understand the underlying processes that govern our world at its smallest!

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At April 21, 2005 7:50 AM, Blogger broomhilda said...
Could they be on the way to producing their own 'big bang'?
 
At April 21, 2005 8:02 AM, Blogger Sray said...
They are. Already we are down to a creating the situation a millionth of a second after bigbang :-).
 
At April 21, 2005 12:43 PM, Blogger broomhilda said...
Oh bugger, I had a really good comment and blogger lost it! I shall try again.

I wonder just how infintesimal (sp?) the beginning of the bigbang was prior to it's growth. Was it's beginning so small that we can, as of yet, not measure it, or as your post suggests, are we now able to finally create the bigbang and thereby create a new universe. What would happen to our universe?

I just wonder about this stuff from time to time.
 
At April 21, 2005 6:37 PM, Blogger Sray said...
Broomhilda, these are some really deep questions that scientists are still trying to answer, so I will try to give the crux of it all.

According to classical physics (Einstein's general relativity), the universe is supposed to have started from a point. If you add quantum mechanics, the universe is supposed to have started from a infinitesimal ball, of size 10^-35 meters (a millionth billionth billionth of radius of a hydrogen atom!!). This ball exploded, and expanded into the universe we see today. Scientists have found validations of this theory from the Microwave Background Radiation, and how it looks like.

But this expansion was not like expanding a balloon. A balloon expands into already existing space (when we blow a balloon, it becomes larger, and occupies more space). In contrast, the bigbang create the space we live in! So, if scientists are able to manage a bigbang, it need not destroy our own space. It might expand into a parallel space, and to us, who are outside this new space, this bigbang will look like a black-hole.

In that sense, it might very well be that whenever black-holes are created, a new universe is created 'inside' it. I say 'inside', but there is no appropriate word for it... the interior of the black-hole pinches off from our space, and forms its own identity (just like a bubble would pinch off from a surface).

So, if and when scientists are able to create a black-hole (which takes a lot of energy to create, and so it currently beyond the technology), we might be spawning a new universe. This idea is not proven yet, but it is possible.

Who knows, perhaps our universe was started like that too?! But I will hesitate to call that creator, god.
 
At April 21, 2005 6:38 PM, Blogger Sray said...
LOL, Gindy. I try to make it easier, so please ask me questions if you dont understand :-).
 
At April 22, 2005 6:01 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
i read this post after the latest one, so u have explained re. birth of star here.

i liked ur comment on big bang, its easy to understand even for me:D

but its tough for my mind to comprehend, no space and then the space created. but the ballon illustration was good.


interesting to think on the black holes... would have to search within ur blog on black holes:)

but now there r black holes in the universe, and if the black hole contains their own universe..and if all this is in another black hole...hmmm amazing to just think on it for a minute:)


but if scientists create another black hole and thus a new universe, would it be safe to do it from earth,or would they have to do it from space?
 
At April 22, 2005 7:08 AM, Blogger Wayne Smallman said...
I've often wondered about Black Holes and whether they do in fact syphon off matter and create other universes.

If this was the case, surely there wouldn't be enough matter to create such a universe as our own?

After all, a typical Black Hole is only consuming a minuscule fraction of the matter of our own universe.

I did read that a 'typical' Black Hole consumes around or about ten million tons of matter per second.

Also, from my understanding of our universe -- and as you'd alluded to earlier -- the universe is obviously expanding, but if it were possible to stand outside of the universe, there would be no perceptible growth at all.

In effect, the principle is much like the Tardis from Doctor Who.

All very, very odd...
 
At April 22, 2005 8:23 AM, Blogger broomhilda said...
Theroetically speaking, black holes could in fact be quantum portals then.
 
At April 22, 2005 9:13 AM, Blogger Sray said...
WD: Will it be safe? No one knows, yet. If such a thing is created, it will enormous energies to create it. What if the black hole decides to explode (and small black holes can explode) and release all that energy in a flash?

Wayne: It is true that not enough matter will be present. But what is matter? One kilogram in our space might not be one kg in this new space! It all depends on the physical constants (speed of light, Planck's constant, Gravitational constant, Fine structure constant), and this new space might have a totally different set of them.

The question of standing 'outside' the universe sounds ok, but it has no meaning. For a 2D creature (who only has understanding of left-right, front-back, no up-down) stuck to the earth's surface, there is no possibility of looking from "outside the earth". Same with us, we cannot leave (and it might be that there are no 4D creatures possible who might be able to do it) this 3D space.

Also, different parts of the universe might be expanding at different at different rates, since it also depends on the concentration of matter in those parts. Our part of the universe is expanding at the rate of 80km/sec/mega-parsec (Hubble's constant). This is so small compared to the size of the universe, that it is quite imperceptible, except in very fine measurements.
 
At April 22, 2005 9:16 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Broomhilda: You are right, in a way. It might be possible to use very large black holes to make big jumps in both space or time. But the physics is not yet clear, and some scientists (notably Stephen Hawking) have suggested that there might be a "cosmic censorship principle" in work, which will prohibit us (or any other matter) to make the journey safely :-(.
 
At April 22, 2005 9:29 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Haha :-D. No, the scientists will just tell them that this research will be good for making some nice new weapons for the DoD. That will please these fundoos like nothing else :-).
Scientists are getting smarter. They know what to put (or not to put) in the proposals. Sad, really :-(, that scientists are being forced to act like politicians.
 
At April 22, 2005 10:09 AM, Blogger Wayne Smallman said...
I used the standing outside as a theoretical device, not a literal thing.

Outside of the universe, higher dimensions exist that would tax our very limited perception of all things. So there would be no physical possibility of such a thing taking place...
 
At April 22, 2005 10:13 AM, Blogger Sray said...
I know that :-). I just wrote the comment in case someone else also reads it, and thinks that it is possible to get outside the universe and have a look at it!

Um... higher (spatial) dimensions need not exist outside our universe. According to string theory, all the other dimensions are perhaps rolled up into a small ball. But the question is still open, and the inflationary model of the universe does suggest something like a 4D space... so lets see where it goes!
 
At April 23, 2005 2:15 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:)ok,
and didnt know black holes could explode:)
 
At April 23, 2005 4:12 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Black holes slowly evaporate (a quantum mechanical situation). The rate of evaporation is inversely proportional to the surface area of the event horizon of the hole. Smaller black holes evaporate faster, and in the end explode into pure energy!
 
At April 30, 2005 7:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...
does scientific not include medical science? if not, pl let me know if there are any such sites in india, particularly those dealing with psychiatry.
vl
 

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Monday, April 18, 2005
This Day:

Albert Einstein died on April 18, 1955 (exactly 50 years ago). His papers on (Special and General) Relativity had a huge impact on 20th century physics and philosophy. One of the predictions of this theory relates to Gravitational Waves, which are ripples in space-time, caused by motions of matter. Imagine a ball on a rubber sheet, causing the sheet to deform. As the ball moves on the sheet, the deformation of the sheet changes. This change in deformation (ripples) will be felt by say, an ant standing on the sheet some distance away! Similarly, motions of stars and planets (any mass for that matter) should create ripples in 3D space, and should be detectable by sensitive instruments.

Proof mass on one craft (Courtesy: Max-Planck Institute)
The joint ESA-NASA LISA (Laser Interferometer Space Antenna) mission hopes to detect gravitational waves in space. To be launched in 2013, the LISA mission will use laser interferometers - very sensitive tools to measure tiny variations in the distance between objects – and proof masses on board three spacecraft flying in formation. The three crafts will be flown in a triangular formation, each 5 million kms away from the other two. The setup will fly some 50 million kms from the Earth, so as to not get affected by Earth's gravity.
Infrared lasers will be beamed between the spacecraft, arriving on small 2-kilogram proof masses, 4-centimetre cubes made of Gold and Platinum. As the setup flies through gravitational waves (created by the blast from the Big Bang, by Earth, Sun, the planets, and so on), the lasers will fluctuate as the triangle gets deformed (imagine a triangle moving on a curved surface). The fluctuations will be measured, and the measurements relayed back to Earth.
Since gravitational waves are extremely weak (gravity is the weakest force in nature), extreme sensitivity is required. For example, the lasers need to measure fluctuations of an order of a 10th of the radius of an atom! The setup will also be able to measure the direction from where the waves are coming, which will help it locate perhaps some dark matter and other exotic sources.

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At April 20, 2005 1:34 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Just so Amazing !!
 
At April 20, 2005 4:16 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Yeah :-).
 
At April 20, 2005 12:48 PM, Blogger broomhilda said...
can we surf those?
 
At April 20, 2005 7:30 PM, Blogger Sray said...
The gravity waves? We are constantly doing that :-D.. because we are always under the force of the Earth's gravity!
 
At April 21, 2005 12:41 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
It would be nice if it doesnn exists!
 
At April 21, 2005 1:18 AM, Blogger Sray said...
LOL, Lemna! Wanna fly straight to space?!
 
At April 21, 2005 4:55 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
Yaaa I do...with out feelin' weight 'n....
 
At April 21, 2005 6:19 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Close you eyes.. and spread your arms.. and believe.....
 
At April 22, 2005 7:01 AM, Blogger Wayne Smallman said...
I once demonstrated exactly this principle to my nephews using a golf ball and a football [the round type, not the rugby ball shape].

I placed them on top of my bed with the duvet to one side.

The mattress was for the purposes of the exercise, the fabric of space / time.

The gold ball was Earth and the football was the Sun.

Worked a treat!
 
At April 22, 2005 8:30 AM, Blogger Sray said...
It is a beautiful abstraction, the rubber sheet. With a little effort, one can easily imagine a 3D space which is getting deformed by the masses moving in it! The 3D space deformation is similar to, say, metal balls moving in molasses. The molasses get slightly dragged by the balls moving in it... and this in turn affects any neighboring ball :-).
 

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Sunday, April 17, 2005
This Day:

Toshiba announced a new technology that allows 3D images on a flat-screen display, without the need of any special goggles. The technology will be marketed for video arcades by end of 2006, and for consumer appliances (televisions etc.) by 2010. The 3D displays have small lenses in front of each pixel, allowing different images to be seen depending on the point of view. That way, different images are sent to different viewpoints, thus creating a 3D effect. The technology will be displayed at the 1st International FPD Expo in Tokyo next week.

Drinks, anyone? (Courtesy: GeekBlue)
In the real world, we are able to see true 3D (which includes depth perception), since our two eyes get slightly different images. Also the brain enhances our perception, by using past memories/experiences. 3D goggles operate on the same principle, by supplying slightly different images to the two eyes.
The prototype 3D screens (15.4-inch 480x400 pixels, and 24-inch 480x300 pixels) use 12 or 16 slightly different views of the same object or scene. The different views are then processed, and projected onto the lens in front of the pixels, which sends slightly different scenes in different directions. Currently, the technology only supports pictures, but Toshiba will soon extend it to videos, both real/live and computer-generated.
This technology promises to revolutionize gaming, as it is simple, and yet manages to give a much more immersive experience :):).

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At April 19, 2005 2:07 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
:)Cool pal,we are seein' day to day progress for our comfort,it is nice...but something about myself,I donn like 3D games!!!I donn know why,but each game that I have seen in 2D and later I have seen its 3D,I prefered th first one!Do you think that I am reverse goin'?!or am I fool?!So I am:)
 
At April 19, 2005 2:12 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
Emm:D I am sleeeeepyyyyyyyyyy 'n still 5hours 'n 20 minutes left:(
:))
 
At April 19, 2005 2:15 AM, Blogger Sray said...
I love 2D games... esp. the old prince of persia I and II!! I think 2D games leave a lot to your imagination, and therefore are more capable to take you to the world of fantasy and mystery.

Dont sleep! You will get kicked out one of these days :D:D:D:D.
 
At April 19, 2005 2:17 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
Wow :)
 
At April 19, 2005 2:20 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
btw how do u do the comment calcuator and post number calculator?

and i have asked a doubtagain in the previous post:)
 
At April 19, 2005 2:24 AM, Blogger Sray said...
I used javascript to implement that. You can check out my page source code, and look for the javascript function calls (search for script type="text/javascript"). The javascript functions are stored in MyJavaCode.js, a javascript file I have written.
 
At April 19, 2005 2:25 AM, Blogger Sray said...
And hey, you are the leading commentator!! Kyonki commentator bhi kabhi blogger thi/hai.... :D:D:D:D.
 
At April 19, 2005 2:35 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Hey Lemna, how did you get in here? My statcounter doesnt show you!!

I had a nice 5 hour sleep today... so now back to work :)).
 
At April 19, 2005 3:08 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:)) sray
well it depends on the blog contents and urs is interestin to say the least and i never thought i will be able to come across so many interesting posts:D

thanks i will check on code.
 
At April 19, 2005 3:30 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Thanks WD :-). If you want to have the code on your blog, let me know, and I will write a simple TODO list for you.
 
At April 19, 2005 5:18 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
:D:D:Dheyyyyyyy my dear pal,Shhhhh,it is a secret!!!!
 
At April 19, 2005 5:19 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
And do you know what secret?!I'll tell you later!:D
 
At April 19, 2005 5:19 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
still 2hours and 10 min left!!!!No,I'm trying not to sleeeep:D
 
At April 19, 2005 5:27 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Wowww, you are counting down like you have to meet someone :-D. Do you? ;-);-)...

Secret, eh? Ok ok, tell me later :):):)...

Hmmmm... what are your plans after work? Go home and sleep?! You have an appointment at 9:00PM, dont you forget.............
 
At April 19, 2005 5:29 AM, Blogger Sray said...
By the way, this time, I caught you coming in... hahahahaha :):):)...
 
At April 19, 2005 7:02 AM, Blogger wise donkey said...
well i can manage html, but js no idea at the moment.

can u give a link so that i can learn and put in some work.
if thats tough, then would appreciate a code, but only if its really not a prob:)
 
At April 19, 2005 7:04 AM, Blogger LEMNA said...
:D:D:DNoooo pall,I donn have met sb!!!:)):)):))...emmm,no pal,the secret was the error with your counter!!!I donn like to do sth that nobody understand me!:D:D:Dyaa,my plan is goin' home and have a rest,no,I wonn forget,I have to do some works then I'll be there:) but at 9:30,ok?I hope nobody come there:)):)):))
 
At April 19, 2005 10:49 AM, Blogger Sray said...
WD: You can visit this page and get the feels for javascript. Perhaps you can also see my code and then it will be easier. Do you know C, or C++ languages? If yes, javascript will be a breeze.

If you have problems, let me know. I will just cut out the relevant portions of my code, and give you instructions :-).
 
At April 19, 2005 10:50 AM, Blogger Sray said...
Heyyyyyyyyy Lemna, just joking :-):-):-). You have a good rest, and hope to see you soon :-).
 
At April 19, 2005 2:05 PM, Blogger Sray said...
I would too! But it seems that is still some way off... 2010 :(:(.
 
At April 19, 2005 2:26 PM, Blogger wise donkey said...
:) no i dont know c or c++
will try to learn from the first link you have given.
have saved that file. will see if i can figure out, but with what do u open a .js file?
 
At April 19, 2005 2:26 PM, Blogger wise donkey said...
oops didnt write, Thanks a Ton:)
 
At April 19, 2005 3:37 PM, Blogger Sray said...
WD: You can open a .js file in any text editor (notepad will do). Umm, if you dont know C/C++, it might be hard, but try a little bit, and if it doesny work, let me know.

And dont worry abt. thanking :-).
 

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